[dr_henke]

Continueing my search for missing ships...
Argentina is missing 2 Armouerd Cruisers in both scenarios!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...Argentine_Navy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARA_General_Belgrano_(1896)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARA_Pueyrred%C3%B3n

Well not to much difference but sure they have the strongest fleet in south america.
It can be good to have 2 old italian sluggers to fight of the mongol hordes or smurfs or whatever...
Destroyers are they 5 or 10 in a unit i always forgott... they shall have 16 by 1940 and in game they have 2 units then.

Shall i add this? ( doc?)

Well Chile seems alright i guess... over to other countries!

[Oszych]

I know I'll be little oftop, but who cares . . . ( xD )

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and It's forbidden to tell anyone accidental about it.
From now, you are restricted to keep secret under threat
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I'm gonna write a spy-action-political story abut wwII times.
(I know, it's gonna be tricky, but I don't afraid)
I have whole concept and most of details and historical facts,
I even wrote other chapters, but I have problem with 1st scene.
Ferst scene is acting in Argentinian (axis) Pampa, nearby Santa Rosa.
Main character - Argentinian,British,German - triple special service agent
is eating in poor pub and I don't know how to make
a big, convincing "Boom". - If you know what I mean . . .
Do you have any serious ideas ? Doc B. Melter ? Hmm ?

(When it will be finished, I'll make a special edition with those naval sprites )

[Dr Rare]

Originally Posted by Oszych

I know I'll be little oftop, but who cares . . .

You have broken a record for a thread going the most off topic the quickest
But it sounds like fun you should post literary stuff in the AAr thread i think and perhaps use the game to illustrate your story.

Right back on topic

Originally Posted by dr_henke

Continueing my search for missing ships...
Argentina is missing 2 Armouerd Cruisers in both scenarios!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...Argentine_Navy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARA_General_Belgrano_(1896)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARA_Pueyrred%C3%B3n

Well not to much difference but sure they have the strongest fleet in south america.
It can be good to have 2 old italian sluggers to fight of the mongol hordes or smurfs or whatever...

General Belgrano...stifled chuckle

Originally Posted by dr_henke

Destroyers are they 5 or 10 in a unit i always forgott... they shall have 16 by 1940 and in game they have 2 units then.

Yes i think its 10 units (if you send them on convoy escort duty?)but its 5-10 in game or-depending the types of units, some countrys had quite big destroyers others little tiddlers.

Originally Posted by dr_henke

Shall i add this? ( doc?)

Oh Yes please..you posty .inc's.. i testy and posty them in 0.92b thread

Originally Posted by dr_henke

Well Chile seems alright i guess... over to other countries!

Excellent

[dr_henke]

It's so fun fixing small navys!

Originally Posted by Dr Rare
General Belgrano...stifled chuckle

aa you are thinking of the falklands?!

About 1936 Argentina:
The cruisers where in the 1939 OOB, so i have just copied and pasted and added/correcting(?) some speed etc values for Argentina, and added 2 small doctrines to make their fleet a bit more fun/realistic, the battleship defencive doc makes their ship special against the other south american dreadnoughts. And they had real strong armour.

Originally Posted by Dr Rare
Excellent

Well imo lets add some values for Chiles navy and offencive doc for their single bb. It's a "modern" dreadnought and had really large guns 10X355mm so i think it's cool for flavour.

For Brazilian navy,
Their old BB's was rebuilt in 31-35 in Rio, with new oil boilers and new fire control, so they should maybe have Basic marine Enginering and basic steamplant tech in 36. I think they got most of those in 39.
Also they have got 20mm AA guns on their ships after refit in 35 so it may be cool to add 20mm AA guns but that will affect army also?

Turkey seems correct...

Greece, well their 2 BB's were decomissioned since long and in bad shape so i think they need some changes and also for their armoured cruiser.

Mexico seems allright.

Holland, mostly correct and a good naval nation. Already in 1936 they had primitive snorkels on their subs so i think it's cool to add schnorkel testing tech for them.
Also they had great bofors 40mm AA mounts on their ships in 36! Among the first or the first?
So i think it may be cool to add this tech also, but it will affect the army aswell.

For them we can also add 2 old Armoured Cruisers and a Coastal defence ship, those were mostly crappy and for training purpose but can be fun for a player to refit and bring back to service shape again?
And it don't make much diffrence for majors.
( I got some fun events for them also... )

So tell me what you like or not....


For French navy if they survive 1940, it may be cool to have some events like the Z-plan events as they where already starting small work on 2 good 40 plane carriers?

Originally Posted by Dr Rare
Oh Yes please..you posty .inc's.. i testy and posty them in 0.92b thread

I'll fix you check! just remind me, and tell me what you like. most is finished already.

Originally Posted by Dr Rare
You have broken a record for a thread going the most off topic the quickest
But it sounds like fun you should post literary stuff in the AAr thread i think and perhaps use the game to illustrate your story.

I little OT?! At least it was in Argentina...
I sounds fun and i agree with Rare!

Originally Posted by Oszych
...how to make
a big, convincing "Boom".

Well i'm not sure, you mean like a jump start of the story?
Err a little bit OT, but i always found micro dots is cool to use for axis argentinian agents...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microdot

[Dr Rare]

Originally Posted by dr_henke

It's so fun fixing small navys!

Good to hear that Hurrah!

Originally Posted by dr_henke

aa you are thinking of the falklands?!

Naughty chuckle, i just cant help it

Originally Posted by dr_henke

About 1936 Argentina:
The cruisers where in the 1939 OOB, so i have just copied and pasted and added/correcting(?) some speed etc values for Argentina, and added 2 small doctrines to make their fleet a bit more fun/realistic, the battleship defencive doc makes their ship special against the other south american dreadnoughts. And they had real strong armour.

If its more realistic and matches the rest of the mod well,then i say add it

Originally Posted by dr_henke

Well imo lets add some values for Chiles navy and offencive doc for their single bb. It's a "modern" dreadnought and had really large guns 10X355mm so i think it's cool for flavour.

Sounds like a good tweak especially as it only effects the one ship in the OOB's and not the nations techs as a whole....i like it

Originally Posted by dr_henke

For Brazilian navy,
Their old BB's was rebuilt in 31-35 in Rio, with new oil boilers and new fire control, so they should maybe have Basic marine Enginering and basic steamplant tech in 36. I think they got most of those in 39.

Sounds good to me ,as long as it does not mean they are researching and having uber navy techs unrealistically by 39.Maybe they were balanced this way purposely

Originally Posted by dr_henke

Also they have got 20mm AA guns on their ships after refit in 35 so it may be cool to add 20mm AA guns but that will affect army also?

Well you could check if the army had such capabilities but if not perhaps In this case maybe its more realistic to just just raise the AA Defence of those particular ships?

Originally Posted by dr_henke

Turkey seems correct...

Good to know.

Originally Posted by dr_henke

Greece, well their 2 BB's were decomissioned since long and in bad shape so i think they need some changes and also for their armoured cruiser.

Cool.

Originally Posted by dr_henke

Mexico seems allright.

Good to know.

Originally Posted by dr_henke

Holland, mostly correct and a good naval nation. Already in 1936 they had primitive snorkels on their subs so i think it's cool to add schnorkel testing tech for them.

For some reason i thought Holland did have this tech in game or it was part of an event in some way?(Maybe a German one?)But i agree they were famous for there snorkel tech perhaps it is in research queue already for them in game?

Originally Posted by dr_henke

Also they had great bofors 40mm AA mounts on their ships in 36! Among the first or the first?
So i think it may be cool to add this tech also, but it will affect the army aswell.

Maybe yet again just raise the AA stats of the particular ships?But check maybe Holland army had good AA guns maybe the were Bofors customers in which case add the tech?

Originally Posted by dr_henke

For them we can also add 2 old Armoured Cruisers and a Coastal defence ship, those were mostly crappy and for training purpose but can be fun for a player to refit and bring back to service shape again?
And it don't make much diffrence for majors.
( I got some fun events for them also... )

Ok as long as there weak ,but what stages were they in between the 2 scenarios 3 year difference?And where were they?

Originally Posted by dr_henke

So tell me what you like or not....

Like all your ideas in concept and trust your research i think adding this stuff to the OOB's creates more realism and does not effect the whole game or balance to much.

Originally Posted by dr_henke

For French navy if they survive 1940, it may be cool to have some events like the Z-plan events as they where already starting small work on 2 good 40 plane carriers?

Hmmm nice idea as long as it cannot happen if Vichy is declared,but a bit of a lot of ahistorical work.Up to you.

Originally Posted by dr_henke

I'll fix you check! just remind me, and tell me what you like. most is finished already.

I like i all.Just post it one nation at a time start with the Argentian ones etc

(Note to Newbies: All work we speak of is for the CORE v0.92b mod and its the most current files released are the ones worked on)

Originally Posted by dr_henke

Err a little bit OT, but i always found micro dots is cool to use for axis argentinian agents...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microdot

MMMMnnnnn.....micro dots

[dr_henke]

Crap i wrote a long text and then i screwed it up by opening othert hings in the window!!!
And now the battery is soon gone. so just a quick answer:

About AA guns, Great idea to just raise AA on specific ships! I diden't thougt about that!
I'll check for brazils army thou.

About dutch navy and 40mm AA:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bofors_40_mm

The first order for the "real" L/60 was made by the Dutch Navy, who ordered five twin-gun mounts for the cruiser De Ruyter in August 1934. These guns were stabilized using a unique system known as the Hazemeyer mount, in which one set of layers aimed the gun, while a second manually stabilized the platform the gun sat on. All five mounts were operated by one fire control system.

Bofors also started the development of a suitable towable carriage which they displayed in April 1935 at a show in Belgium. The carriage caused something of a stir, as the gun could be fired from the carriage with no setup required, although with limited accuracy. If time was available for setup, the gunners used the tow-bar and muzzle lock as levers, raising the wheels off the ground and thereby lowering the gun onto supporting pads. Two additional legs folded out to the sides, and the platform was then leveled with hand cranks. The entire setup process could be completed in under a minute.

Orders for the land based versions were immediate, starting with an order for eight weapons from Belgium in August 1935, and followed by a flood of orders from other forces including Poland, Norway, and Finland. It was only accepted into the Swedish Army the next year, known as the 40 mm lvakan m/36, the lower-case m indicating an Army model as opposed to the capital M for Navy.

So lets give it to the specific cruiser, and check that belgium has it? Poland gets it by event and same for finland i think?
EDIT: i saw that dutch subs also had bofors 40mm AA but that may be a separate tech for them? I'll check for that.

Great links on dutch ships:

http://www.netherlandsnavy.nl/index.html

http://www.dutchsubmarines.com/

The earliest reports of "snorts" being used on Dutch submarines are from before 1918! The boats of the O 4 type had a small (and problematic) pipe.
The length of this pipe could be changed, it functioned like a telescopic system. Actually this was the pipe of the "battery ventilation" and it was situated forward on the bridge. When the main tanks where flooded, and the hatches closed, air could be sucked in through the pipe. This enabled the diesels to run. The Dutch called it "getrimd dieselen". This was a quite dangerous operation because when sailing too deep the pipe had to be retracted completely before the valve (that should keep water out of the boat) functioned. When closing too late water could get to the batteries and create a dangerous situation.

Snorkels are 2 techs first a trial tech and second a deployment tech. They got the first one in 1939 but not in 36. The germans made them functional in 43-44.

About France and Carrier events, in triggers lets check for that they got paris and no vichy and check that it's past july 1940 or so?
they got one of the carries in que in 1939 togheter with planes.

Originally Posted by Dr Rare
I like i all.Just post it one nation at a time start with the Argentian ones etc

(Note to Newbies: All work we speak of is for the CORE v0.92b mod and its the most current files released are the ones worked on)

Ok, fine i shall take some more looks at the stats and techs. Basicly Chile Brazil Tur ARG and greece finished.
What are the dates of the latest files so i'm really sure i got the right ones?
( or if you just zip the 36 and 39 folders if you got time? )

Ok, time to sleep work tomorrow!

[Dr Rare]

Originally Posted by dr_henke

About AA guns, Great idea to just raise AA on specific ships! I diden't thougt about that!

Originally Posted by dr_henke

I'll check for brazils army thou.

About dutch navy and 40mm AA:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bofors_40_mm

Nice find

Originally Posted by dr_henke

About France and Carrier events, in triggers lets check for that they got paris and no vichy and check that it's past july 1940 or so?
they got one of the carries in que in 1939 togheter with planes.

So maybe its not needed ,as they are there already in game 1 carrier unit equals 2 ships?

Originally Posted by dr_henke

What are the dates of the latest files so i'm really sure i got the right ones?
( or if you just zip the 36 and 39 folders if you got time? )

Ok, time to sleep work tomorrow!

Ok i have little time also but i have copied and attached all the current incs for you......I will remove once you have it so not to confuse newbies

Laters



ATTACHMENT Removed

[Dr Rare]

Legitimate Project Bump!

Hows it going?

Shall i remove the pack above to avoid newbie confusion.I guess you have it??

[dr_henke]

Yes please remove it!

Well i totally forgott about this little project until yesterday. But anyway i have been to busy also working and it had been to good weather to sit inside all time, +26 degrees...
But i finish it as soon as i got some free hours! we're off to the babydoctor now for rutine injections!

[Dr Rare]

Originally Posted by dr_henke

Yes please remove it!

Done

Originally Posted by dr_henke

Well i totally forgott about this little project until yesterday.

Yes a few bumps were needed as good things were getting buried.

Originally Posted by dr_henke

But anyway i have been to busy also working and it had been to good weather to sit inside all time, +26 degrees...

Totally agree the weather is to good to miss here now......seeya!

I havnt had much time myself this week for my own projects as the entire heating system was being replaced in my flat and building and i have been up early in the mornings and in bed early at night which is most unlike me as a nocturnal creature.

Originally Posted by dr_henke

But i finish it as soon as i got some free hours!

I am looking forword to the new inc's works.

Originally Posted by dr_henke

we're off to the babydoctor now for rutine injections!

Ouch Spikey!Poor little babe.The horror of baby spiking day....,she trusted you until today ,the day you delivered her to the doctors for a spiking!

[dr_henke]

Originally Posted by Dr Rare
Yes a few bumps were needed as good things were getting buried.

Yes terrific since i tend to forgett all things... Thats why to fix things fast or i forgett it.

Totally agree the weather is to good to miss here now......seeya!

Last week we had over 20 degrees every day or much more then greece and spain if i read the weathermaps correct... excellent weather for a cold brew!
In northernmost sweden 28 degrees hot and still snow on the ground...

I havnt had much time myself this week for my own projects as the entire heating system was being replaced in my flat and building and i have been up early in the mornings and in bed early at night which is most unlike me as a nocturnal creature.

I diden't know you got heating systems in London, at least not in the bed and breakfast i sleept in 8 years ago!
Yeah i like beening up late too you know, to bad it's getting light outside soon after 2.

I am looking forword to the new inc's works.

not much work left just some fun stuff. I got some missing techs for fin and maybe others , i can maybe post them later here? Totally OT but at least it's incs...

Ouch Spikey!Poor little babe.The horror of baby spiking day....,she trusted you until today ,the day you delivered her to the doctors for a spiking!

Yeah one shot in every leg, pow pow! 2 inches of cold steel. And she almost doesent cry. babies are harder then grown up mens i think.
But she will never ever trust 79 year old men with white beard again, or her perents, so christmas will horrible!

[Dr Rare]

Originally Posted by dr_henke

Last week we had over 20 degrees every day or much more then greece and spain if i read the weathermaps correct... excellent weather for a cold brew!
In northernmost sweden 28 degrees hot and still snow on the ground...

We had only 20degress here today and it was a little colder than the last few days which were super hot.

Originally Posted by dr_henke

I diden't know you got heating systems in London, at least not in the bed and breakfast i sleept in 8 years ago!

They probably thought they were making you feel at home as you are from a colder country.(more like saving cash)But its no surprise my landlord left me without hot water and Heating Twice both over the whole Xmas period 2 years running almost became a xmas tradition.

Originally Posted by dr_henke

Yeah i like beening up late too you know, to bad it's getting light outside soon after 2.

Well i am gong to catch up on TV i have been recording tonight so i will probably be nocturnal again soon..maybe in time for a sprity weekend?

Originally Posted by dr_henke

not much work left just some fun stuff. I got some missing techs for fin and maybe others , i can maybe post them later here? Totally OT but at least it's incs...

Yummy New inc's...Cool cant wait, i will test and upload...Dont forget 36 & 39!

Originally Posted by dr_henke

Yeah one shot in every leg, pow pow! 2 inches of cold steel. And she almost doesent cry. babies are harder then grown up mens i think.

So true i become more of a scaredy cat the older i get..i no longer like insects for instance.

Originally Posted by dr_henke

But she will never ever trust 79 year old men with white beard again, or her perents, so christmas will horrible!

Ahhh the poor wikkle fing (little thing)

[dr_henke]

Originally Posted by Dr Rare
They probably thought they were making you feel at home as you are from a colder country.(more like saving cash)But its no surprise my landlord left me without hot water and Heating Twice both over the whole Xmas period 2 years running almost became a xmas tradition.

Yeah cooler outside in the winter but not in summer...
Well it's just to remind you of giving your landlord presents next year!

Originally Posted by Dr Rare
So true i become more of a scaredy cat the older i get..i no longer like insects for instance.

How many do like insects???

Ok, back on track again...

Originally Posted by Dr Rare
Yummy New inc's...Cool cant wait, i will test and upload...Dont forget 36 & 39!

Nope, but i'm, starting with 36...

Ok, here is a first pac of countrys with slightly corrected incs. Mostly just ship speed, armour etc. I added tweaks disscussed earlier like BB doctrines to make chiles singel bb more authentic etc...

I also tweaked research costs of Argentina and Finland, both much higher then similar countries. Finland had higher costs then Sweden even with less IC! And Argentina had as expencive as Brazil that has almost twice of argentinas IC...

And some techs added.
I have checked and Brazil had (danish?) madsen 20mm AA guns for both army and navy in 1936 so it's ok to add that.
Finland should have 50 and 81mm mortars already in 36 and they where massproducing them.
Sweden had their own passangerliners in 36 and bofors had build a number of 254mm guns for Finish Illmarinen-class BB's so it's cool to add those, also Swedish BB's had steam turbines since 1920 so it's cool to add that tech to i think...

Holland is left to add, and the 1939 scenarios will follow.

Just tell me what you think it's just suggestions!

[Dr Rare]

Originally Posted by dr_henke

Ok, back on track again...

Originally Posted by dr_henke

Ok, here is a first pac of countrys with slightly corrected incs. Mostly just ship speed, armour etc. I added tweaks disscussed earlier like BB doctrines to make chiles singel bb more authentic etc...

I also tweaked research costs of Argentina and Finland, both much higher then similar countries. Finland had higher costs then Sweden even with less IC! And Argentina had as expencive as Brazil that has almost twice of argentinas IC...

And some techs added.
I have checked and Brazil had (danish?) madsen 20mm AA guns for both army and navy in 1936 so it's ok to add that.
Finland should have 50 and 81mm mortars already in 36 and they where massproducing them.
Sweden had their own passangerliners in 36 and bofors had build a number of 254mm guns for Finish Illmarinen-class BB's so it's cool to add those, also Swedish BB's had steam turbines since 1920 so it's cool to add that tech to i think...

Holland is left to add, and the 1939 scenarios will follow.

Just tell me what you think it's just suggestions!

Nice All looks great to me i haven't had a chance to test it yet as i have been up all night spriting ..But i have had a read and it looks great.

To save newbie confusion after you post the 39 incs ,Maybe i will release them in all in one drop in pack instead of in separate posts ,as the nations in these incs do not clash with any of the earlier 0.92b updates i think ?

More feedback soon....

[dr_henke]

Originally Posted by Dr Rare
Nice All looks great to me i haven't had a chance to test it yet as i have been up all night spriting ..But i have had a read and it looks great.

To save newbie confusion after you post the 39 incs ,Maybe i will release them in all in one drop in pack instead of in separate posts ,as the nations in these incs do not clash with any of the earlier 0.92b updates i think ?

More feedback soon....

Cool so we gonna see more nice sprites soon? Like German/Swedish ww1 tanks? I love the video i posted...
All of the incs was from 2004 i think... So no problem!
It's really fun searching techs and such for minors. Almost all countries had one "advanced" field. ( like dutch subs ) And the majors are strong as they are. As they have got a enormous building power.
Any ideas for countrys that need a overlook?
I'll continue with netherlands next then 39'ers

I'm waiting for the feedback, also from others then Rare!

[Dr Rare]

Originally Posted by dr_henke

Cool so we gonna see more nice sprites soon? Like German/Swedish ww1 tanks? I love the video i posted...

Unfortunately that idea did not work but instead the current Czech Panzer 38(t) used as L-2 will be joined by a Panzer 35(t) sprite as L-1 for a few nations like the L-2 is.So Swedan will get a new L-1 tank that will match the OOB tech levels for CORE

Originally Posted by dr_henke

All of the incs was from 2004 i think... So no problem!

Well i posted the most current for you to use so all is well.

Originally Posted by dr_henke

It's really fun searching techs and such for minors. Almost all countries had one "advanced" field. ( like dutch subs ) And the majors are strong as they are. As they have got a enormous building power.

Well i am glad you like it and understand it all in relation to the game and its balance, your research is trusted and your time and contributions most appreciated.

Originally Posted by dr_henke

Any ideas for countrys that need a overlook?

Nothing comes immediate to mind....But i will lookout for stuff.

Originally Posted by dr_henke

I'll continue with netherlands next then 39'ers

Yummy Cant wait !

Originally Posted by dr_henke

I'm waiting for the feedback, also from others then Rare!

others than Rare No spellings to check in OOB's

Well the feed back is all loading at my end fine

Although feedback may be scarce ,from the download counts i can tell Everything and everybody must be enjoying the mod changes as there have been over 300 downloads now of 0.92b Lurker and non-lurker versions not bad since its an old game..interestingly the non- lurker members only download has been downloaded 68 times by Members..so resistance is strong !

[Monash]

Sorry blokes, I dont know how much time I can give over to this...

As mentioned in the AST events thread (or is it in the install instructions).. I am having
trouble getting time to test my own stuff. - hence post 1940 events were currently untested.

(Yes I know its a bit hypocritical of me to put my stuff up for some testing but
not have time to do the same in return)

Cheers Monash

Update - Even worse, my computer now has a damaged registry hive file so now I'll be spending this evening (currenty 9.30am here) trying to recover from that.. (if I cant do it then I'll have to get a repair place to do it but we'll see how we go)

[dr_henke]

Originally Posted by Monash
Sorry blokes, I dont know how much time I can give over to this...

Those who not gives comments agree...
Well no i understand that you are full of other things to do such as your fun and good raider and austalian events...
Does all english speakers use the word blokes except americans?

Originally Posted by Monash
(Yes I know its a bit hypocritical of me to put my stuff up for some testing but
not have time to do the same in return)

No problem... I don't like to bug test much just to came up with new things. But reading throu your events is no problem.
And really it's not much to test and no big diffrences. A rotten ship more or less for a minor doesent matter much but can be fun for a player as they really can refit a old slugger and make it ready to sink of a torpedo or two...
Play a game with finland or argentina or something to see a small small diffrence...

Originally Posted by Monash
Update - Even worse, my computer now has a damaged registry hive file so now I'll be spending this evening (currenty 9.30am here) trying to recover from that.. (if I cant do it then I'll have to get a repair place to do it but we'll see how we go)

How do you get a damaged registry? what os are you using? Anyway i hope it all works out good... am is that afternoon? We always use 24 hours here...

Ok, i hope i find some time to finish the 39 incs.

[Dr Rare]

Originally Posted by dr_henke

Ok, i hope i find some time to finish the 39 incs.

Me too

I am really looking foreword to them.. as i am in the mood for restarting my AAR.

[Monash]

[quote=dr_henke
How do you get a damaged registry? what os are you using? Anyway i hope it all works out good... am is that afternoon? We always use 24 hours here...

Ok, i hope i find some time to finish the 39 incs.[/QUOTE]

My daughter was on the web and the machine froze up, so it got turned off after waiting for a while, and now Windows wont boot...and reports a problem starting the Software part of the registry.. and then physical memory dump... am still looking into the issue (OS = XP)
(lucky I can get on from work)... may not have it up for the rest of the week.

AM is Morning, PM is afternoon

Blokes - generally an Australian term, same as chaps etc...

cheers

M